I used the Seagull outboard (a 78cc, model 40+ Mk2 made in May 1976 - so the same age as Sancerre) on the dinghy in 2017 & 2018, then one day in May 2019 motoring into Alderney's Braye harbour, it conked out and I had a long row back to the boat.
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Sancerre (centre), the only visitor in March 2019, in May I was at the far end and it is further than it looks. |
I was now in a quandary, it was only a few weeks till the Jester Baltimore Challenge and with the size of Baltimore harbour and the distance from the anchorage to the shore I needed a reliable outboard; with the time constraint I lashed out on a new Mariner 4 stroke that works fine but it is heavy.
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Fellow Jester Sailor Mike using his Seagull to return to his A9m "Tranquillity" once we had been able to move relatively close to the dinghy landing in Baltimore. He was able to store the motor in the lazarette although I would not want petrol in there, especially alongside the diesel heater. |
As it turned out I was able to quickly fix the Seagull with a new carburettor from
Saving old Seagulls (recommended) but I took the Mariner on that trip and on return I moved from Haslar Marina to a trot mooring on the Hamble where I definitely needed a reliable engine with up to 3 knots of tide to cope with and preferably a reasonably quite one as I would be going to and from the yacht club quite often and occasionally 3 miles up river to Deacon's where I was storing the boat over winter. Whilst on the mooring I did not need to hoist it aboard keeping it in the car boot until a space became available in the RAFYC outboard store, so I stuck with the new Mariner.
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To overcome the weight issue I built a removable hoist that works well but as mentioned in a previous post I rarely used it usually rowing in or taking a water taxi. Rigging the hoist takes a few minutes but getting the motor securely onto the dinghy single handed takes a good deal longer. |
Now I am back in a marina the Seagull becomes more attractive. I can, and probably will, still use the hoist but the motor being relatively light and with no oil to get into the wrong places, I can lower it into the dinghy then move it into position rather than lowering it directly onto the transom with the dinghy moving up and down with the waves or as I move in it, a straight forward operation if there are two of you but trickier single handed.
After 5 years in dry storage when it was never run, the Seagull started first pull after being turned over a few times without the spark plug to get some oil through the system and being given a new spark plug and fresh fuel. But some tidying up was in order, especially for the fuel tank.
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It was a lot of work to get to this stage removing the original paint, lacquer (over the decal) and later additions. It is rather bashed about but a steel tank this old would probably have rusted out from the inside long ago. Fortunately the black paint job makes the dents less noticeable. |
The Seagull was in production for years with loads made in the 1950s, 60's and 70's with the design not changing much over the years. At a conservative estimate well over a million of all types were made and some think 2 million. In the late 70's, when mine was made, Seagull were turning out 80,000 engines a year.
Providing you follow the instructions for stating them they are usually very reliable and invariable start second pull - the important part is to "tickle" the carb float until fuel shows and when cold to remember which way the choke operates and use it. Into the 1970s Cornish inshore fisherman would take their "punts" (largish, heavy wooden dinghies - not what you see at Oxford or Cambridge) out to the difficult waters around the Longships and Wolf Rock with just a Seagull and a pair of oars for propulsion.
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An advert from the 1960s (On the Saving Old Seagulls web site). |
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Newly painted with a new transfer in the old style from Saving Old Seagulls. It says use a 10:1 fuel - oil mixture although this 1976 Mark II 40+ with a Bing carburettor will happily run without modification at a more normal 25:1 but the transfer is authentic to the original. |
After refitting I found that the fuel tap was leaking fuel like mad, it had held fuel in the tank for 5 years but the cork seal on the "pull for on" tap dried out in less than a week. It is a known problem with a known solution but I didn't expect it to happen so soon. The moving piece with the cork was removed and soaked in hot water (initially boiling hot) for 15 minutes, dried, grease applied and when refitted it worked fine.
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The prop stripped and painted, the gearbox etc. just cleaned and painted. It is not high tech but it works and similar designs they called the "Hydrofan" were used on a lot of engines, some larger ones have 5 blades and, despite relatively low power, all can push a surprisingly heavy boat.
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Repaint under way, the fly wheel I did previously and is still in good condition. The gearbox oil has been changed as has the gear box plug and the propeller spring and split pin. The spring (a patented replacement for a sheer pin) was looking a bit tired so I swapped it with my spare - they will absorb most shocks but ultimately will break so a spare is advisable.
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Ready to go. The recalcitrant fuel cock is on the tank bottom left. Note the Bronze transom mount which is detachable if you want to leave it in place and carry less, optional mounts, such as bolt on ones, were available. |
Note that the flywheel is exposed and there is no recoil starter, health and safety would not be impressed and they could probably not be made now given product liability issues. Also there is no kill cord (it is possible to fit them but hardly anyone does as it can create other issues), no twist grip or stop button, you stop the engine by closing the throttle leaver all the way.
Operationally the biggest issue on this model is the lack of a clutch, pull the string and you are off, not a big issue if there is someone to hold onto the mother ship when you are starting but it can require a bit of faith that it will start if you are single handed and there is a strong wind or current. Also you can't turn it through 180 degrees for reverse, probably no bad thing given the whizzing fly wheel.
For anyone tempted they are pretty cheap in this country usually £100 - £150 for a decent runner, but take care there are duff ones out there, many at inflated prices. Good ones, often over restored, can be eye watering expensive overseas and especially in the USA where they are collectors items. In this country things are more generally more relaxed.
For readers with an Achilles 24: Being designed for displacement hulls a 102cc Silver Century (or Century +) with a clutch would appear to be a good option as a prime engine and one that should drive an A24 well, probably better than many modern engines designed for light craft and with nominally more power; but think twice, being in a well you would get a lot of noxious fumes coming into the cockpit even with a 25:1 fuel mix, and they can be noisy so not good over long distances, both partly due to holes in the exhaust system to reduce back pressure restricting power (and possibly helping the centrifugal water pump).